Command & Conquer - Tiberian Dawn - Movie

[Major-DJ-Havok]

As a C&C fan, the Tiberium Universe is my favorite of the three. It has been widely debated by C&C fans all around the world, whether or not, it would be a good or bad thing for a C&C movie to be made?

Obviously we can't ignore the fact that games that have been made into movies have not done well!

In my opinion, I think the story-lines from the games Tiberian Dawn & Renegade have the makings of a great script!

I created this thread to see for myself, other fans views on the topic. Please feel free to share any thoughts you have at all on the matter!

[Kyang]

I'd watch it.

Though, I know it would likely be terrible.

[stephanovich]

I don't really see the point. We already have FMV's so if a movie would be made, it would have to have its own story instead of one about TD ETC.

Secondly, I just doubt there's enough C&C fans around to justify it TBH.

[Kyang]

Secondly, I just doubt there's enough C&C fans around to justify it TBH.

C&C's fanbase size would be irrelevant. It obviously wouldn't be marketed just towards C&C fans. C&C's base storyline is just as dumbed down as any other generic action film, with a futuristic, western, good guy side, battling shadowy terrorists. Tiberium would be there, but no one would really care about what it is, just so long as there's shooting, so it would definitely have wide appeal.

And you just know any attempted script wouldn't dare try to add some finesse and nuance into the storyline. They'd keep it simple, for the sake of financial security.

[stephanovich]

I just doubt it could really draw in other people.

[Incia]

C&C Movie! (http://www.gamereplays.org/community/index.php?showtopic=764453)

Rebooting the free willy movies...

[Kyang]

I just doubt it could really draw in other people.

It's a war movie. It's guaranteed to draw people in. :p .

[stephanovich]

Well a pure war/action movie with lots of gunz n' splosions without a story can always draw in dudes :p

[Klandri]

That movie would be nice but I'm sure it's not going to happen and I think it would make us serious fans go crazy.

[CNCGeek101]

I don't think the movie magic would work with C&C. As it is game to movie adaptations don't get the proper funding these days and they get stuck with some unknown director.

[easimon1812]

I wouldnt watch it.

[CyborgBanana]

Tiberian Dawn? That would fail horribly.
Tiberian Sun? Pretty good and stuff like the Ion Cannon, mechs and such would give it a unique feel.
C&C 3? Too generic.
C&C 4? ...

[Kyang]

Tiberian Dawn? That would fail horribly.
Tiberian Sun? Pretty good and stuff like the Ion Cannon, mechs and such would give it a unique feel.
C&C 3? Too generic.
C&C 4? ...

Don't let the difference between the cinematics of the game cloud your judgement here.

In terms of basic plot points, C&C3 + KW has everything TS does, just not done in the same way. For example, it still has the Mechs, Tiberium, Nod, GDI, AI, mutants, etc. And the Ion cannon plays a bigger role in the plot than in TS too, so it's funny you don't give C&C3 the same point for including it as you did for TS.

Actually, making one movie per game isn't necessarily how a producer would go about the project anyway.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

I would just like to say thanks to the people who have replied to this thread and hope that the debate continues.

With regards to 'stephanovich', it is because of the FMV's that has made C&C games great to play, always playing to see what the next FMV holds in store for us! I've always wondered though, that if games like C&C could attract good actors, (not necessarily in Tiberian Dawn itself but look at some of the others games), then couldn't a possible movie? If the movie is done right and meets fan expectations, well then 'Kyang' could also be right in terms of the movie appealing to a wider audience!

With regards to 'CNCGeek101', I think you’re absolutely right in terms of funding. To make a C&C movie would require a lot of money! Let's just say hypothetically though that a good script was written, a good director came in and that attracted the actors? Do you think that there could be even the slightest possibility that it could be something good?

Like I said, games that have been made into movies have not done well but there is a first time for everything!

[Kyang]

*Sigh*, I remember when I used to post everyone's user name in quotes, and tried my best to write thoughtful replies...

[CyborgBanana]

Don't let the difference between the cinematics of the game cloud your judgement here.

In terms of basic plot points, C&C3 + KW has everything TS does, just not done in the same way. For example, it still has the Mechs, Tiberium, Nod, GDI, AI, mutants, etc. And the Ion cannon plays a bigger role in the plot than in TS too, so it's funny you don't give C&C3 the same point for including it as you did for TS.

Actually, making one movie per game isn't necessarily how a producer would go about the project anyway.

It was a mistake not including the Ion Cannon for CnC 3, I was being lazy.

In my opinion though, TS is a much more darker, less-generic Sci-Fi setting then CnC 3 or TD. In TS, there was much more focus on Mutants, Cyborgs (Cabal), AI (Cabal), Tiberium etc. which is the things that make C&C unique.

[Vayjir]

I also belive that TS would make a better movie and when i think about it there isent that many movies with Mecha in them aswell is there? (that is not animated)

[Kyang]

It was a mistake not including the Ion Cannon for CnC 3, I was being lazy.

In my opinion though, TS is a much more darker, less-generic Sci-Fi setting then CnC 3 or TD. In TS, there was much more focus on Mutants, Cyborgs (Cabal), AI (Cabal), Tiberium etc. which is the things that make C&C unique.

I agree with you that TS is made to be darker, but I don't agree that it was any less generic. Mutants, cyborgs and a murderous AI are all sci-fi staples, and therefore, their inclusion in C&C certainly doesn't set it apart. The core of the Tiberium universe is of course, Tiberium, and that's probably the only truly unique (Or at least rare.) story element C&C has.

TS actually shifts its focus away from Tiberium itself, instead centering around Kane, and his plans for it. That's not a bad thing, since Kane as the main villain deserved some character development. However the way they went about it was to develop TS's storyline into the timeless arc about the baddie with a doomsday device, and the good guys stopping trying him. Again, it's totally generic, but that's still not the worst of it. Following TS, the story is then taken into ultimate cheese, with a mad AI with a plan for domination. Now the main villain Kane, isn't even there, and Tiberium is sidelined even further.

The twist in the story, the Tacitus, and what it has to do with Tiberium, is continually held off as a pie in the sky until the end when we're dealt two cliff hangers. One is about reassessing directives, and the other is what happens to all the data unlocked from the Tacitus. This is also fine, because they're genuinely interesting plot developments, but since they're put at the end of the story, they play only a minimal role in making the story leading up to it any less generic.

My point is, running down a checklist of sci-fi staples from AI to mech robots, to aliens doesn't do anything to make a story less generic. What does that is how the story weaves these things together in a way that we'll actually care about them. Tiberium mutating Earth and how it polarizes Humanity can be unique. Kane is interesting. Killer AI's with shallow personalities are neither unique, nor can they be interesting on their own. Heck just look at Terminator. Alone, Skynet is downright stale, and it's not really the focus. Developing John Connor as a character and the Human struggle against extinction, is where the meat is. Same for Cabal, same for Kane, same for Tiberium.

[Heron]

If Joe Kucan directs it.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Haha, what made you stop 'Kyang'?

[CrazyGDIfan123`]

*Sigh*, I remember when I used to post everyone's user name in quotes, and tried my best to write thoughtful replies...
lol goodness that didnt need reminding

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Haha, well am practically new to all this so I hope use can forgive me, lol!

[CrazyGDIfan123`]

basically i dont see the point in those quotes for usernames... its just a game forum where noone cares about making posts look overly professional or genuinely make it sound like theyre talking to anonymous random people on the internet -- people who do too much of that sorta thing just look... weird

posts decently structured with paragraphs with comprehensible grammar/spelling is really about as far as you need to go - besides that you can really keep your posts very informal and even add a pinch of humour... this is simply how you have your posts noticed and appreciated more

[polm]

Tiberian Dawn? That would fail horribly.
Tiberian Sun? Pretty good and stuff like the Ion Cannon, mechs and such would give it a unique feel.
C&C 3? Too generic.
C&C 4? ...

td ho yes a cool movie on war, like save ryan or d-day (the game is a movie) using multi plan like starwars for the two side,
ts, no, ridiculous acting and story, but ok for the universe
cc3... not really
tiberium and cc4,its same like ts, unierse are ok but the story is really inappropriate

a movie on tiberium universe its difficult, i think it can be like tarnsformers, wenotsee the movie for actor, but for robots,
here its same we go see for the universe, not really actors

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Haha, I felt like a wierdo writing it but point taken, cheers!

So were do you stand on a C&C movie?

[PizzaAtomica]

I think CnC's story has too much background information to be condensed into a movie, but I've always thought it could work well as a tv (mini-)series.

[Yggdrasil23]

Personally I have yet to find a videogame -> movie conversion that did justice to the original source material. I'm not particularly impressed by the idea of a devil may cry movie for instance.

That said, I would probably go and see a command and conquer movie in the hopes it surprises me, and if it doesn't I at least know exactly how bad it is.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

A TV or Mini-series did cross my mind but with the rate of TV-Series' being cancelled it probably wouldn't be a good idea!

I hate when you get into a TV-Series and then it gets cancelled and left without an ending!

[PizzaAtomica]

A TV or Mini-series did cross my mind but with the rate of TV-Series' being cancelled it probably wouldn't be a good idea!

I hate when you get into a TV-Series and then it gets cancelled and left without an ending!

True, I was thinking that they could make 1 season out of TD, and then if it does good they can make a 2nd season for TS, and so on.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

You could but I don't think C&C fans would appreciate the story being rushed!

You have to remember that there is 28 years between the end of the first Tiberium war (Tiberian Dawn) and the beginning of the second (Tiberian Sun)!

For a second season it would require an entirely new cast of actors, and change of actors in my opinion has never really worked for long!

[ArcaneDelta]

they did it for star trek, voyager, next gen and classic trek. they also did it for stargate. who knows it might succeed

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Good point but most of them series' ended with the same characters that were there from the start! I just think its a bad idea to change characters from season to season!

The problem with being a C&C fan is that there's just not enough of us! We'll never compare with the likes of Star Trek or Stargate because they are just legacies!

[ArcaneDelta]

too true. well truth be told i would always go and see a movie. I reckon someone like bruce willis could be the commander, and get the guy who plays slavik to be slavik. I dont think the games could be followed precisely in regards to a movie but they could create an awesome movie from the universe.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Well I havn't given much thought to actors in terms of who would play who. I honestly think though if a writer came up with a good script they can't write it as if they are already planning a sequel or even a trilogy! I say put all the eggs in one basket, create the best story possible and see what happens! If it doesn't work then at least it was a try but if it succeeds, wait a few years before going back to write a sequel like James Cameron did with his Terminator movies'!

[Heron]

I think the thing is, which perspective you want it played out? FPS tactical? Strategic?

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Why not a little of both?

You could have the main storyline following a character or characters on the battlefield, another storyline following the decisions of a commander and then an overall plot from the Brotherhood of NOD and Kane that brings all stories to a crossroads!

[Golan2781]

Yeah, and then it ends with an awesome DiscThrower rush into the sunset. The Tib story in itself is just too generic and inconsistent to be made into one of these movies where director, screenwriter, actors and all the other guys put real effort into it. Anyone read the TW novel? *shudders*

[methuselah]

I think there is a prospect there if you separate it from the game for the most part. And if Joe plays the lead role otherwise forget it. In other words if you take the base framework, GDI vs Nod, the mysterious and powerful tib, and build from that there is something there.

If you try and slave to the convoluted framework of storyline we have now it might end up as bad as the book was.

[Major-DJ-Havok]

Damn, you guys are talking about how bad the book is and I just bought it the other day, lol! Still waiting for it to arrive.

Well if they were to make a movie I think it should end at the end of the first Tiberium war! Even if there were sequels, they don't nessecarily have to go as far as Tiberium Wars!

[Harrrr]

Personally I have yet to find a videogame -> movie conversion that did justice to the original source material. I'm not particularly impressed by the idea of a devil may cry movie for instance.

That said, I would probably go and see a command and conquer movie in the hopes it surprises me, and if it doesn't I at least know exactly how bad it is.

That's because it seems like 90% of them are directed by Uwe Boll

[Golan2781]

Poor Uwe. Always being misunderstood.:cool:


Damn, you guys are talking about how bad the book is and I just bought it the other day, lol! Still waiting for it to arrive.Don't worry, I heard it's quite "entertaining".

[Major-DJ-Havok]

I'll hold you to that!

Now can someone please tell me who this guy Uwe Boll is? His name keeps coming up and he seems to get the raw end of the stick everytime, lol!

[Harrrr]

I'll hold you to that!

Now can someone please tell me who this guy Uwe Boll is? His name keeps coming up and he seems to get the raw end of the stick everytime, lol!

He's a producer/director known for taking (and abusing) popular video games and turning them into movies. They always bomb in the threatres, and he still...somehow...manages to get backing and financing for more movies.

His movies all based on video games:
Alone in the Dark (1 and 2)
Bloodrayne (3 of them)
Far Cry
Dungeon Siege
Postal

What any one of them, and you will realize how terrible the movies are, even if you aren't familiar with the franchise in question.