To Command and conquer 4 STAFF [Archive]

bouke454

09-13-2011, 03:32 PM

To: EA and the developers of command and conquer 4

The game is not that bad as it looks but it could be a lot better

So please EA and developers do not ignore this game as a lot of people buyed it.
You can still patch some things to make the game actually better by adding more features/maps

Like: new gametypes (capture the crystal)

In this game mode it is like in fps shooters capture the flag but on this game the crystal. The crystal is in the middle of the map and must be taking by other players

This is just an idea!

Here some options which needs to be inside the game if you like playing against CPU's

2 missing options Difficulty/Random please check it out!

-cannot make 2 different AI difficulty's
(like: 1 AI is medium difficulty and the other is hard difficulty and both are on the same team!)

-Missing an option to let the AI choose a random crawler
it needs an option added like: (add AI player to random) so it chooses a randomly crawler!
(Now it is only like this for example: add AI player to defence)

And last but not least
Maybe some more maps?

To try to get some attention to the developers of command and conquer 4 I have posted this message here!

I hope more people and community's will help me
if we all want more updates (like new maps)

I will put here the site's where we/I have posted this message:

www.commandandconquer.com/

Personal message: (Not everyone hates this game. True it is that the game is different from other c&c series but still they can make the game somewhat better to add new features like I listed for example above!)

POLL: Grammatic error it is Interest
My excuses for it!

Other: I think it is useless to make this topic since they aren't supporting anymore and then we still have mods

Incia

09-13-2011, 10:44 PM

Some very obious bugs and exploits would be first priority for me to see fixed. (Specter bug, jump-jetting with tiberium etc)

Second would be to fix bugs, and remake some maps for balance, like removing 2 tiberium crystals from the center of capital coup, seriously, nobody is playing that map in serious games.

Third one would be to actually fix the millions of bugs with custom maps, names don't show up, map transfer only working to 1 player when it should work up to 10!!!!!! playing 2 different custom maps screws up the graphics, and so on... bug after bug.

Actually add in the map winning contest map into the actual game, maybe rework it a bit and make it even more smoother?

After the exploits are fixed I would start working on actual balance, as currently most balance issues are due to programming errors. With these fixed it would only need a few balancing fixes to some UP and OP units.

Warthog167

09-14-2011, 12:02 AM

I second the notion that not everyone hates C&C 4. I like it, it's not an epic fail, as certain people love to troll around about on just about every thread, and it could be so much better if they just put a little time into fixing the bugs! (And no, I'm not a noob, the first game in the series I played was Red Alert and have played them all sence then)

I really like the idea of capture the flag/capture the crystal!

...though lets not get our hopes up on anything, because 9 chances out of 10, nothing is going to happen with this game.

Feloidea

09-14-2011, 01:01 AM

I second the notion that not everyone hates C&C 4. I like it, it's not an epic fail, as certain people love to troll around about on just about every thread [...]

Not every thread!!!!

;)

But I concur, no matter whether people like me see it as an abomination, or others dislike it for whatever reasons they have, EALA (now VG plus associates) should at least try to make the game better for those peeps that like it.
And yeah, chances for this to happen do tend to zero.

EddySaf

09-14-2011, 01:55 AM

Not every thread!!!!

Yes not every thread but there are quite a few other threads. Every day for about 2 years not a day passed by where there has been negative nature posts from regular posters towards C&C4. EA knows how fans feel since the game was released, so why does the negativity continue and when will it stop. Could the quantity of negative posts for so long effect people's decisions to join the forum community.

Feloidea

09-14-2011, 03:20 AM

I can say that by all means, with that much a f*ck-up EALA did with FnF4 (and I want to emphasis that CnC:Arena was cool, not my type, but cool. But they just HAD to turn that spin-off into the "epic conclusion" to sucker punch some money ...) I am all in in letting them know everytime the developers take a peek in here to remind them on what NOT to do. And given my own reaction right now, I once again see I am not above doing that myself.

As for the joining this community, ... well. Either they joined for FnF4, then they will have to cope with it and just develope a tuogh enough skin to bear the animousity against that game or have a steadfast enough character to just not care about others preferences, or they aren't really fit for this particular community anyway. Not that we'd be eggregiously abusive or unwelcoming, but I think it is save to say that we don't discriminate against newcomers if they know what they are talking about or just don't give a damn worth our opinion and horde with those they can talk. It's only the n00bs that get the fire. And every n00b in here gets fire, ... actually ... screw that. Everyone in here gets his share of the fire, so in fact this *****ing around does only weed out those who would not last long anyway. Not to sound like some social-darwinist, but frankly, this is how it works in here so far, to a more or lesser degree.

Also, most people don't get that this animousity is projected solely on the game, not those that like the game and if otherwise, the utmost amount of people would change their target immediately to the offender, that much is almost guaranteed here.

Nahilus

09-14-2011, 03:39 AM

CNC4 doesn't have a staff anymore. Thread is aimed at no one.

EddySaf

09-14-2011, 04:47 AM

CNC4 doesn't have a staff anymore. Thread is aimed at no one.

Yeah CNC4 doesn't have a staff anymore, nor does any of the other C&C games where some fans want things even with games over 10 years old. All of the VG staff are working on the new game in the works, and which appears to have more funding and possibly a new game engine. The aim of VG and where EA provided funds, appears to be in future games rather than in the past games. Maybe things in the past might be better left in the past so the C&C Franchise can go into the future. If that does not happen then it might herald the end of the C&C Franchise.

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 09:56 AM

Yeah CNC4 doesn't have a staff anymore, nor does any of the other C&C games where some fans want things even with games over 10 years old. All of the VG staff are working on the new game in the works, and which appears to have more funding and possibly a new game engine. The aim of VG and where EA provided funds, appears to be in future games rather than in the past games. Maybe things in the past might be better left in the past so the C&C Franchise can go into the future. If that does not happen then it might herald the end of the C&C Franchise.

Difference is the older games actually have modding teams and modding tools. Also as a matter of fact the KW patch is also complete as Apoc left it ready and waiting when he left, and that is taken from the great man himself.

EddySaf

09-14-2011, 01:43 PM

Difference is the older games actually have modding teams and modding tools. Also as a matter of fact the KW patch is also complete as Apoc left it ready and waiting when he left, and that is taken from the great man himself.

Last official KW 1.02 patch was December 2008 nearly 3 years ago and the UNofficial 1.03 patch was done in February by I think a fan called Crazy. Apoc left end of May 2010 when others left and that was about the time when the remainder of the staff moved to the new game in the works, some might have been working on that months earlier. I think KW has the modding SDK tool and TT does not have that, just the mapping tool Worldbuilder where about 80 custom maps have been made for TT.

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 03:40 PM

Last official KW 1.02 patch was December 2008 nearly 3 years ago and the UNofficial 1.03 patch was done in February by I think a fan called Crazy. Apoc left end of May 2010 when others left and that was about the time when the remainder of the staff moved to the new game in the works, some might have been working on that months earlier. I think KW has the modding SDK tool and TT does not have that, just the mapping tool Worldbuilder where about 80 custom maps have been made for TT.

As i said, in talking to apoc he said the KW 1.03 official patch was ready, but he hadnt had clearance to release it. As of SDK and stuff for FnF4 i already said they have nothing, and the other games do. So why you posted is beyond me.

methuselah

09-14-2011, 04:02 PM

I would love to see a modsdk released so the community could finish the game and I would love to see the clan and ladder support we were supposed to get implemented alas I think that horse is out of the barn. VG is fixated on delivering the very best game they can with this next edition and it is hard to argue with that despite my wishes for C&C 4.

stephanovich

09-14-2011, 06:58 PM

As i said, in talking to apoc he said the KW 1.03 official patch was ready, but he hadnt had clearance to release it. As of SDK and stuff for FnF4 i already said they have nothing, and the other games do. So why you posted is beyond me.

According to Feasel, 1.03 was only 50% done.

About a patch for TT...I highly doubt it. There was what...12 or less devs left when TT was released and who knows how few of them are left now. Asking all the new devs to work on something they haven't worked with before is pointless IMO.

Feloidea

09-14-2011, 07:16 PM

According to Feasel, 1.03 was only 50% done.

About a patch for TT...I highly doubt it. There was what...12 or less devs left when TT was released and who knows how few of them are left now. Asking all the new devs to work on something they haven't worked with before is pointless IMO.

To put that in a nutshell:

FnF4 is pointless.

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 07:47 PM

According to Feasel, 1.03 was only 50% done.

Didnt feasel leave sometime before Apoc???

Also i am only going on what Apoc said about the patch. Iirc he said " I have left it all nicely packaged on the desk" or something to that effect. It was back when these forums were about to be unveiled.

About a patch for TT...I highly doubt it. There was what...12 or less devs left when TT was released and who knows how few of them are left now. Asking all the new devs to work on something they haven't worked with before is pointless IMO.

As for this i didnt mention a patch for FnF4, i simply admitted the modders have no tools for it.

EddySaf

09-14-2011, 07:53 PM

About a patch for TT...I highly doubt it. There was what...12 or less devs left when TT was released and who knows how few of them are left now. Asking all the new devs to work on something they haven't worked with before is pointless IMO.

Similarly that would apply to all the other C&C games. So all you could do if you wanted a patch is to have a gifted fan spend a lot of time to make an unofficial patch.

As to tools. Last time I modded files to change values to a game I used notepad. Greg Black wanted to write balance issues into the game engine but was told to put them on one of the accompanying files as it would be quicker and could be easily changed later if need be, maybe that file can be altered using notepad.

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 08:02 PM

Similarly that would apply to all the other C&C games. So all you could do if you wanted a patch is to have a gifted fan spend a lot of time to make an unofficial patch.

Shows how much you actually pay attention to the other games doesnt it??

I draw your attention to: http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?3670-Unofficial-KW-Patch-1.03-should-deserve-a-Moddb-page

And more importantly this: http://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/showthread.php?102-Community-Patch-Thread

This proves you know nothing about any other game but FnF4

EddySaf

09-14-2011, 08:21 PM

Shows how much you actually pay attention to the other games doesnt it??

I rarely read any of the other games here as I simply have NOT got the time, I want time to play C&C4 and other games.

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 09:06 PM

I rarely read any of the other games here as I simply have NOT got the time, I want time to play C&C4 and other games.

But you find the time to pick up on pieces of crap happening for cnc4.

It doesnt explain why you havent seen them, they ahve been everywhere.

stephanovich

09-14-2011, 09:44 PM

Didnt feasel leave sometime before Apoc???

Also i am only going on what Apoc said about the patch. Iirc he said " I have left it all nicely packaged on the desk" or something to that effect. It was back when these forums were about to be unveiled.

Can't remember, but he was the one working on it and I doubt any others finished it.

As for this i didnt mention a patch for FnF4, i simply admitted the modders have no tools for it.

Wasn't aimed at you...but I could have made that more clear anyway...

Nahilus

09-14-2011, 11:09 PM

I rarely read any of the other games here as I simply have NOT got the time, I want time to play C&C4 and other games.

So, you're admitting you know nothing about the rest of the CNC universe?

RedAlert2008

09-14-2011, 11:11 PM

So, you're admitting you know nothing about the rest of the CNC universe?

Thats what it is eluding to.

ohither

09-14-2011, 11:22 PM

eddy saf hasn't played other C&C games? SHOCKING!!!! C__C

EddySaf

09-15-2011, 12:06 AM

eddy saf hasn't played other C&C games? SHOCKING!!!! C__C

I've played them all since 1995 except Sole Survivor, and you are joining the rest to shove a response.

Feloidea

09-15-2011, 01:16 AM

I've played them all since 1995 except Sole Survivor, and you are joining the rest to shove a response.

Just wait until I jump in onto the fray, then we'll have STOP!

HAMMERTIME

Daaaa daadada dada dada w00tz!

methuselah

09-15-2011, 05:01 AM

Feasel was one of the last ones out the door and 1.03 got done. Wish I could play it.

Coolness7

09-15-2011, 07:28 PM

So, you're admitting you know nothing about the rest of the CNC universe?

Its not that hard to believe is it? He constantly defends C&C4 when we compare it to C&C3... He believes that "C&C4 plot" (if there was such a thing) was equal or better than the rest of the series.. He described C&C4 as immerse and he plays it constantly... I think he's Sam Bass 0.o

Eddy how often do you play.... D&D, WoW, or RS?
And why haven't you played Starcraft 2?

EddySaf

09-15-2011, 10:27 PM

He believes that "C&C4 plot" (if there was such a thing) was equal or better than the rest of the series.. He described C&C4 as immerse and he plays it constantly...

As I have said many times before. I like all the C&C games. Since C&C4 released I have been playing that, and on occassions when my grandson visits we play mainly TW as he likes to stomp into my base with Scrin Tripods. When the next C&C game is released I will be playing that and I'll probably post heaps about that game on the forum, but on occassions I'll still play some other C&C games with my grandson which might even include C&C4, and what game depending on what we might happen to decide that day and which might be TW as that mainly gets chosen to play by my grandson. Regardless of what game we have a good time together. Later after the new game is released I wonder if Coolness will keep in saying the same things when I play that game quite a bit and also post about it quite a bit, and if I like the new game I will be.

CyborgBanana

09-19-2011, 04:34 PM

I've played them all except Sole Survivor

Your lack of faith is disturbing.

Coolness7

09-19-2011, 05:34 PM

Tbh I don't know anyone who has played Sole Survivor.....

RedAlert2008

09-19-2011, 05:58 PM

Tbh I don't know anyone who has played Sole Survivor.....

I have many eons ago......you sortta know me.

Coolness7

09-19-2011, 08:00 PM

Oh ok *shrugs*

CyborgBanana

09-19-2011, 08:32 PM

Tbh I don't know anyone who has played Sole Survivor.....

I have... in my nightmares.

EddySaf

09-19-2011, 09:19 PM

Westwood's Sole Survivor was omitted from The First Decade compilation because EA has disowned it.

RedAlert2008

09-19-2011, 11:32 PM

Westwood's Sole Survivor was omitted from The First Decade compilation because EA has disowned it.

Exactly like what is gonna happen to FnF4......

ohither

09-20-2011, 12:18 AM

assuming the gaming gods smile on us when the second decade pack gets made

EddySaf

09-20-2011, 12:51 AM

Exactly like what is gonna happen to FnF4......

EA may take copies sold including a Gold Award in Germany into consideration.

Zocom7

09-20-2011, 02:29 AM

CNC4 doesn't have a staff anymore. Thread is aimed at no one.

The only developer left to question is.......Samuel Bass. He's still works for EA.

EddySaf

09-20-2011, 03:56 AM

The only developer left to question is.......Samuel Bass. He's still works for EA.

Samuel Bass was also a developer for TW, KW and RA3. Maybe we should wait and see what the next game is like. Also, maybe we should listen to what APOC mentioned in don't blame the devs.

Warthog167

09-20-2011, 04:20 AM

EddySaf

09-20-2011, 05:37 AM

Remember, when the game was produced they were having a financial crisis.

Yeah I remember. When they started C&C4 there was a global financial recession which also affected EA. This meant that ALL games at EA was affected in some way by the recession where EA in 2009 decided it must reduce its staff by 2,600 employees. Due to the recession EA also decided to reduce development money towards C&C4 where staff were reduced, and they even decided not to include the Scrin in the game. As not so much development money was put towards C&C4 that meant not so much copies of the game had to sold before they could start making a profit. For C&C4 was it a financial loss, break even, or profit? Due to the recession around the globe people simply were not spending like they use to, particularly on "luxury goods and entertainment" like they did before, this impacted not only on EA but also on other companies. Anyway the NASDAQ graph for EA clearly shows when it hit EA.

http://members.wideband.net.au/safcav/1A/EArecession.jpg

Commander32

09-20-2011, 05:55 AM

Remember, when the game was produced they were having a financial crisis. Maybe they had more multiplayer game modes in mind or other plans for the game but ran out of time and money. After the game came out, they put their efforts into re-locating resources and creating VG which didn't leave any time or resources for patches or updates---sad but true. They all have to answer to EA regardless of what they may have wanted to do with the game. EA is going to do what brings them the most profit.

yeah, that too, but its also due to poor decisions by the company. But really guys, can't we just move on now? the past is the past, but the future can be anything.

Im getting sick and tired of these threads now, its been talked about to death, let it go. MOVE ON DUPES AND DUPETTES.

Coolness7

10-01-2011, 06:06 AM

I could change the title to government efficiency and it would still look the same haha.
http://members.wideband.net.au/safcav/1A/EArecession.jpg

Tuahaa

11-07-2011, 05:37 PM

I actually bought this game today. I've been playing CnC since Tiberian Twilight. CnC3 was amazing; I still play it (and Kane's Wrath!) and it had a lot of potential.

I'm very disappointed that EA only seems to support games for a couple of months and then moves onto a new title. CnC3 had A LOT of potential. It could have been perfected.

Before someone edits my post, I just want to say this: EA did a great job publishing a game, but being realistic if this was another company they would actually care for a legendary franchise and would be patching this game to this day. Come on guys, you made a 9/10 game that lived up to a great legacy and then you left it in the dumps? Seriously? i BET you'd be making more money if you didn't screw things over like this.

I agree that developers should not do the same thing to CnC4. I'm installing it as I type this. Seeing screenshots it kind of looks cartoony... hopefully it will not disappoint when I play it in a few minutes (I'm aware the gameplay mechanics are totally different).

Elven

11-09-2011, 01:18 AM

Well it is mostly impossible because all developers who were working on cnc 4 were fired and they are working now on End of Nations ^^.

Why would new developers have interest towards cnc 4?

EddySaf

11-09-2011, 03:35 AM

Why would new developers have interest towards cnc 4?

After the last patch I think that some devs moved on elswhere yet others moved on to start working on the next C&C game.

Good to see that Elven still has interest towards cnc 4. I also watched the latest VoD and thought it was a good game and good commentary. :)

Dukat863

11-09-2011, 05:47 AM

Well it is mostly impossible because all developers who were working on cnc 4 were fired and they are working now on End of Nations ^^.EALA's developers didn't join Petroglyph.

stephanovich

11-09-2011, 09:32 AM

Well it is mostly impossible because all developers who were working on cnc 4 were fired and they are working now on End of Nations ^^.

Why would new developers have interest towards cnc 4?

Many of the devs went to Blizzard, Zynga or started other companies...

TeslaTrooper25

12-20-2011, 03:18 AM

I don't completely hate C&C 4 but I would never recommend it. My vote goes to yes because the players that actually play and like the game need support and updates.

HOPE1134

12-20-2011, 03:25 AM

Beating a dead horse

Commander32

12-20-2011, 03:35 AM

Why is this brought up again? Most of not all of em are gone by now.

defenceturtle

12-31-2011, 09:49 AM