GDI Reykjavik

[Klandri]

It may sound trivial to most of you guys but I agree with GDI's headquarters being in Reykjavik, Iceland. I hope this will be in the new game.

(They were there, or at least a major base in TW)

[RealWar]

The Pentagon also was a major base in TW. So why not there?

[Heron]

I hope they have GDI headquarters in Switzerland.

[Kodaemon.]

The Pentagon also was a major base in TW. So why not there?

Because enough with the USA-centrism.

[Kyang]

Build another command space station.

[Zaptagious]

I liked the Hammerfest mission in TS...

[Heron]

Right, give some love to Asia locations too...enough with Western-centrism.

[Kyang]

I take it you mean East, South, and South East Asia.

[Heron]

More of the 'neglected' corner of Asia. We don't get no love here in South-East Asia...

[Kyang]

That's because it's a bunch of squabbling islands and minor states. It needs to get its act together or some other major power is going to exploit them again, be it Japan, America, or China.

[Klandri]

Guys, enough with the politics before a moderator locks this thread! :O

[Kyang]

Just avoid having exposition on Communism like in the old forums, and we'll be fine... XD .

[Heron]

Guys, enough with the politics before a moderator locks this thread! :O

Alright. ><

I do think that C&C does take too much cues from the real world to not let some politics bleed through in our discussion. I mean, Generals does portray a possible outcome of the world as we are seeing right now.

But should GDI be a purely Western bloc alliance much like Nato?

[Kyang]

In TD it wasn't. India was important enough to visually highlighted in a cutscene, but who's heard anything about them in C&C?

[Hiroma]

Zagreb ,Croatia? NOD's backyard?



:P

[Heron]

I don't know, does Chandra in TS count?

That said, any attempts at eastern-centric stuff did suffer, as seen from EotRS in RA3...but I hope a serious game can be made with some Eastern-centric ideas and concepts.

[Kyang]

What's an "Eastern-centric idea and concept" that's relevant in the modern or even C&C world? There are no fundamentally unique political systems in use there, it's all Communist, or Democratic, which are western derived systems. Their spiritual and religious concepts play a distant second fiddle to Christianity or Islam. Technologically, it's all Western derived innovations they're working from. Their fashions are all westernized, their food, lifestyle, education system and government are all are western derived. And their people spend time squabbling over Western ideas, values (Individualism.) and debates (Human riiiiiggghhttsss). Even their languages takes second place to learning a global language, which is, surprise, Western. And rather than sort out problems amongst themselves, they're often more than glad to invite the West in, and it's usually America that they try to curry favor from.

Authentic East Asia died in the 1800's, and the Middle East in the early 1900's.

[Noodlesocks]

They should make a headquarters in sarajevo :)

[KidNamedJoey]

Reykjavic? Interesting choice, may I know why?
Wouldn't disagree with it tho, if we take a look at the Tiberium universe Iceland and Greenland are considerable ''blue/yellow'' zones.

If there would be a major headquarters in Asia, it would be the blue zone Japan. Much of China is a red zone, and the NOD influence in that country is high.

Europe's Brittain could be a big GDI headquarters as well, but I wouldn't mind if it would just stay in America.

[Kyang]

Korea (All of it.) was a Blue Zone. Central China was a Red Zone, the rest of it was Yellow. The US was the same way.

[Klandri]

Reykjavic? Interesting choice, may I know why?
Wouldn't disagree with it tho, if we take a look at the Tiberium universe Iceland and Greenland are considerable ''blue/yellow'' zones.

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Europe's Brittain could be a big GDI headquarters as well, but I wouldn't mind if it would just stay in America.

It was in Iceland in Tiberium Wars. At least Redmond Boyle was hiding there and the main mammoth tank production took place there (that actually makes no sense at all but...).

[stephanovich]

I'd rather have it in Hammerfest TBH :)

[Mentalier]

cool

[RealWar]

I just brought up the Pentagon because Klandri didn't come up with a good reason for it to be Reykjavik.

Anyways; All in favor of making it Hammerfest, say "I".

RealWar says "I".

[Vayjir]

I say lets have the GDI HQ in Antarctica.

[Revanchist]

Technically, that should be "aye..."

And for some reason, it looked to me like in Tiberian Twilight, GDI central command was in eastern Europe.

[Klandri]

I just brought up the Pentagon because Klandri didn't come up with a good reason for it to be Reykjavik.


Because it's awesome and follows TW?

[Commander_McNash]

I think the intro mission showing the Pentagon getting destroyed by a nuclear strike will be an awesome way to generate polemic and attract loads of new customers, remember VG, you dont attract new gamers by dumbing down the gameplay, but by adding political stuff... unless you were THQ and made Homefront, just dont forget the word "pausible" in teh objectives of your plans as a good measure.

[Heron]

They did court some controversy with the Statue of Liberty, the Twin Towers, and what not.

But we should add in more plausible scenarios.

[HOPE1134]

In TD it wasn't. India was important enough to visually highlighted in a cutscene, but who's heard anything about them in C&C?

What about Canada? The Allied took refuge there in RA2

[Stygs]

It was in Iceland in Tiberium Wars. At least Redmond Boyle was hiding there and the main mammoth tank production took place there (that actually makes no sense at all but...).

Yeah, he was hiding in some kind of bunker (a light bulb seem to be a bit low tech für a HQ).

Which would imply that Reykjavik is not the GDI HQ, but the exact opposite - a (old) fallout shelter on a remote island to safeguard important GDI personal in a emergency (like a alien invasion) - and thus far away from any important military target.

Personally, I would like to see Cortez' base from Firestorm ("Southern Cross"?) again - after all, he took control affter the Philadelphia was not advaible.

[Heron]

It was Southern Cross, yep.

I will love to see other bases too...like a full 3D rendering of Hammerfest.

[animal19640]

Build another command space station.

So kane can blow it away again hahaha , good one

[stephanovich]

So kane can blow it away again hahaha , good one

You don't think GDI would have learned their lesson from TW?

[Heron]

You don't think GDI would have learned their lesson from TW?

Well, since they kind of did lessen their guard after TS, one would think...they could. After all, 'the human element is riddled with imperfection'.

[Commander_McNash]

It was Southern Cross, yep.

I will love to see other bases too...like a full 3D rendering of Hammerfest.

http://www.absolutnoruega.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/hammerfest.jpg

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[Heron]

Not that Hammerfest.

TS Hammerfest. =D

[easimon1812]

The Pentagon also was a major base in TW. So why not there?

no it wanst, it was the Philadelphia station, the GDI's HQ. it changed after Philadelphia's destruction but Im pretty sure that the pentagon had like no real tactical value, not sure though, any C&C lore master around?

[Kyang]

no it wanst, it was the Philadelphia station, the GDI's HQ. it changed after Philadelphia's destruction but Im pretty sure that the pentagon had like no real tactical value, not sure though, any C&C lore master around?

No need for a lore master.

Just watch this at around 3:20 or so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDIm4t0ouMg

[mastodon]

Space station

[KidNamedJoey]

GDI had so many bases who were important. Sure, the Philadelphia was the biggest and most important base. But the pentagon, seen here above, Hammerfast with their sonic and ion technology, Goddard Space Center in Maryland, Manchester with a major GDI headquarters, Andrews Airforce Base on the east coast of America- and so are there probably enough locations.

GDI and NOD have their important bases everywhere. It's not like they all have 1 base in 1 region that will be the heart of the organisation.

NOD's Sarajevo Temple, NOD Cairo Temple, Command Center Ayers Rock in Australia, Vega's Temple in South America, Hassans Temple in North Africa, Cabals Core in Cairo- you can continue.

[ponic]

GDI's lists of headquaters

Tib 1: UN headquaters (safe to assume) so if I remember correctly New York
Tib 2: Philidelphia space station...ground Hammerfest
Firestorm: Temporairly Southern Cross

Tib 3: Reykjavik, Pentagon, and I guess you could say InOps as well
Tib 4: For a time Manchester England, and then moved to New Adana (assuming New Adana is in the same place as actual Adana that would be Turkey

So thinking about it GDI's headquarters has jumped around the planet plenty and was not always in the USA

[stephanovich]

no it wanst, it was the Philadelphia station, the GDI's HQ. it changed after Philadelphia's destruction but Im pretty sure that the pentagon had like no real tactical value, not sure though, any C&C lore master around?

Kyangs vid and GDI mission 2.

[ArcaneDelta]

I would like to see new HQ one they havent done before, maybe somewhere that isnt such an easy target for nod to attack. but i do reckon new gdi hq should have FS defense system in place :D

[EddySaf]

I would like to see new HQ one they havent done before, maybe somewhere that isnt such an easy target for nod to attack. but i do reckon new gdi hq should have FS defense system in place :D

No place is safe from either faction even if it has FS defense system in place. Maybe the best thing to do is disappear like Kane does and reappear later.

[ArcaneDelta]

yeah you got a point there eddy. what i was thinking of though was somewhere , where nod cant terrorist bomb like they did in the beginning of dawn, and then when they blew up philadelphia.

[Moongrave]

I say they should just make the HQ the entire moon and put the space defense center on it so that way nod can't shoot WMD at it with success

[Kyang]

Decentralize the leadership, and just meet via Teleconference.

[EddySaf]

I say they should just make the HQ the entire moon and put the space defense center on it so that way nod can't shoot WMD at it with success

If years ago they could send men to the moon and walk on it then maybe Kane and Nod could send missiles on a one way trip to the moon. Also just a thought. Maybe the Scrin Tiberium seeded the moon plus the other planets in the solar system, and on the moon due to different factors Tiberium is taking longer to grow.

Also another thought. The Scrin took over 1,959 "cycles" to arrive in the solar system. After arriving, the Scrin continued to wait in suspended animation for a further 9,210 cycles, until their artificial intelligence awakened them and we know how that happened. How long is a Scrin "cycle" and would they travel and "hibernate" for that long whatever that is just to seed and harvest Earth.

[Heron]

Decentralize the leadership, and just meet via Teleconference.

Nah, GDI must show itself never to learn lessons from the past, so they get screwed by Nod again, and again, and again. Only to rise up and win again, and again, and again.Quintessential GDI.

Honestly though, decentralizing the leadership is something the current world leaders seem unwilling to do, and I don't see that changing even with a fictional GDI. Only Nod has the idea, as shown in TS with the teleconference of the Inner Circle.