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  • A Better Video Card ?

    #1
    I have a HP P6102F pc that came with an Ati Radeon 4650 card.

    My PC has a 300w power supply and I have it connected to a 22" NEC MultiSync FE2111sb CRT monitor.

    I want to get an Nvidia video card that will outperform my current card,have a VGA,DVI & HDMI connection and able to work with my power supply.

    Thanks.
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  • #2
    Are there any games you have in mind? And why specifically Nvidia?

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    • #3
      on top of that- you will need a larger power supply. 300W with your setup doesn't leave much room for improvement.

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      • #4
        Can't go further than hd4650 with that PSU(I actually researched this a while back for a friend and that is indeed the furthest you can go with being safe). If you want to upgrade you need to get a new PSU or the current one will fry.

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        • #5
          What about these cards.
          http://www.jr.com/pny/pe/PNY_VCGGT44...ductTabDetails

          http://www.buy.com/prod/galaxy-43ggs...217499131.html

          How do these compare since they can work with my power supply ?

          I was actually thinking of getting a 430 or 440 for my music PC which is using a GT 220.

          The games that I'm playing is Supreme Commander series.
          NFSU
          NFSU2
          NFS CARBON
          NFSMW
          NFS SHIFT
          NFS PRO STREET
          GRID
          HOMEWORLD 2
          SINS OF A SOLAR EMPIRE
          SPORE-GALACTIC ADVENTURES
          C&C SERIES

          And I am waiting to buy Split Second and the new NFS HOT PURSUIT.

          I don't play any shooters and the reason for wanting Nvidia is because I have run into a few games that don't run or look good under my Ati card like the last Star Ship Troopers & NFS UNDERCOVER looks like NFS 2 or 3 with my card.

          Even thoug its a much newer game than NFS CARBON & NFSMW,those 2 games look brillant with my card but I was told that Undercover only looks good with an Nvidia card.
          Last edited by adamstrange; 03-23-2011, 10:13 PM.

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          • #6
            I don't think you will actually be upgrading with those, but google "(cardname) review" and see for yourself. Do some comparisons between the two cards.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by adamstrange View Post
              What about these cards.
              http://www.jr.com/pny/pe/PNY_VCGGT44...ductTabDetails

              http://www.buy.com/prod/galaxy-43ggs...217499131.html

              How do these compare since they can work with my power supply ?

              I was actually thinking of getting a 430 or 440 for my music PC which is using a GT 220.

              The games that I'm playing is Supreme Commander series.
              NFSU
              NFSU2
              NFS CARBON
              NFSMW
              NFS SHIFT
              NFS PRO STREET
              GRID
              HOMEWORLD 2
              SINS OF A SOLAR EMPIRE
              SPORE-GALACTIC ADVENTURES
              C&C SERIES

              And I am waiting to buy Split Second and the new NFS HOT PURSUIT.

              I don't play any shooters and the reason for wanting Nvidia is because I have run into a few games that don't run or look good under my Ati card like the last Star Ship Troopers & NFS UNDERCOVER looks like NFS 2 or 3 with my card.

              Even thoug its a much newer game than NFS CARBON & NFSMW,those 2 games look brillant with my card but I was told that Undercover only looks good with an Nvidia card.
              Have you tried playing with the games?

              And also, those cards you mention aren't good enough. You might wanna consider a new PC, but I will rather you get a 6850.

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              • #8
                from the first post, the OP clearly needs a new power supply before getting a more powerful card.

                remember that it is only in very unique cases that a PSU will be able to run at its peak wattage without blowing out.

                the OP has listed their PSU as a generic 300W PSU, which will not have enough rails on it to power the mid range cards in the first place, and secondly- with the rest of the pc being powered form the same source, there is a high chance that there wont be enough power sent out across the whole pc.

                either buy a new PSU and GPU or buy a whole new pc

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                • #9
                  I don't know apt, HP's PSU are efficient. But they only can take so much, that's true. And 4650 seems the best it can do.

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                  • #10
                    I suggest a new machine built around an Intel i5 2500k and a Nvidia GTX 570 or AMD Radeon 6970. Most cost effective.
                    Corsair and Silverstone make the best power supplies.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Gas0lin3 View Post
                      Can't go further than hd4650 with that PSU(I actually researched this a while back for a friend and that is indeed the furthest you can go with being safe). If you want to upgrade you need to get a new PSU or the current one will fry.
                      Power Supplies generally do not fry if they are over taxed with power these days depending their age. If the computer is at least 8 years old or newer then the PSU will only shut off to protect itself from overload. If a machine is more recent then you need not worry as 90% of the power supplies available today have a safety feature which in effect just shuts down the computer if the PSU cannot handle the power draw.

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                      • #12
                        haha, well it looks like im in the market for a new card. for the same prices as my 4850 2 years ago- I can buy a 6950, so I think ill pick that up once I get paid...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CNCGeek101 View Post
                          Power Supplies generally do not fry if they are over taxed with power these days depending their age. If the computer is at least 8 years old or newer then the PSU will only shut off to protect itself from overload. If a machine is more recent then you need not worry as 90% of the power supplies available today have a safety feature which in effect just shuts down the computer if the PSU cannot handle the power draw.
                          And this is why people still on enthusiastic hardware forums worry about the psu dying and possibly taking stuff with it? Please explain why is this if what you type is a fact.

                          Regardless my point stands and there's no point going further with that psu since it simply won't work.

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                          • #14
                            Geek- PSUs DO end up failing and blowing out. these "preventative" measures you mentioned has had a history of actually not working like intended

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Gas0lin3 View Post
                              And this is why people still on enthusiastic hardware forums worry about the psu dying and possibly taking stuff with it? Please explain why is this if what you type is a fact.

                              Regardless my point stands and there's no point going further with that psu since it simply won't work.
                              You always need that 30% buffer.

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