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Originally posted by Stewox_C View PostC&C is not DOTA nor RPG, so GTFO.
Starcraft 2 is eSport and Multiplayer and still has a working SP.
Company of Heroes 2 will be awesome and it still will have a great SP element.
There's no reason to change the whole industry RTS models just because of millions of stupid DOTA kids who play clones of a warcraft 3 mod.
I meant for "Generals 2" before they changed the name to Command and Conquer
Well LoL is going great (look at their tournament cash prizes), so it's possible for Ea to succeed without p2w. But they got to make it good, so that people will buy cometic changes to their units or/and structures and other stuff that's been suggested in other threads.
Originally posted by IonorRea View PostYou need to pay for maps only if you want have chance of be part of cash winning turnaments, you can get high on ladder possibly even with five maps, although probably harder as you get less optional players during search for optimal player with same available maps (against new factions can be played even when you don't own DLC but only as enemy player, which can also serve as propaganda for buying DLC with faction which you see playing against you in MP)...
Wanting to earn money in official turnaments in F2P game which was developed as Full AAA title for years with tens of millions expensive development for free is just unrealistic with EA, or any sensible distributor, don't you think?
If there will be high audience in watching turnaments online then maybe players on top ladder that get access on turnament can get required maps for free if they not own them already, but if they play these maps for first time it somewhat doesn't meet the purpose, same as playing turnaments only on maps available from start as it becomes boring after some time due limited number of factions.
If all maps will be for free for everyone then is chance for earning money covering development greatly limited and hard to obtain.
Getting all maps for free if you are within for example top 100 players is possible too and can be good motivation if someone think that players will want wait for their access long enough.
Originally posted by sleeper_101 View PostDon't think it will affect anything but I am a C&C Veteran since the very first day and what made this Franchise special was the powerful Single player Campaigns which brought the fun into the Game. With that part missing and that new F2P concept, as sad as it is, the game won't earn any money with me. Not saying I won't try it out when my PC is capable of playing it but for sure I won't upgrade my Hardware due to that Game as planned before the F2P and only Multiplayer announcement.
Cheers for probably ruining this awesome franchise! After the fail of C&C4 now hitting this Franchise again with such a massive new direction... sad sad
I don't see what you're trying to bring back. The game was recycled in to what's now called Command and Conquer. And there was never a single player campaign promised, and if there were could anyone please link that.
What you're describing is p2w not f2p. Look at LoL, Dota 2 or Hon. All of them are f2p and not p2w. And just because Ea has made some p2w games before doesn't mean this one is. You haven't even seen all details of the f2p model.
Originally posted by Arthyen View PostSo, let's get this straight, when you first got into End Of Nations's actual loaded map and started tinkering with units you didn't sense how everything felt flimsy and decrepit?
Because that's the first thing I realized, I remember thinking "oh wow, Tiberium Wars, Supreme Commander 2, DoW2 are so much better than this.."
You know, I just realized that most people when they talk about games they can't articulate what's exactly wrong with it but frequently it's the animations that are the crux of the problem...this is especially relevant to 3rd person and RTS games.
Well if it comes to this, the only way to stop it is by making them loose money for this choice and also telling them that they did wrong. But that won't stop them from cancelling the game after it starts making less money so we also need to tell them how to improve their income.
1. focus on multplayer aspect want made C&C TT so bad. good SP first then multplayer that the bast way.
2. Without a good single player they no game!! single player allow for a base for a good multplayer.
3. FTP model will cost you a lot more. it not really free and it will cause a lot of problem with molding and other thing like gameplay.
4. some of us like to own thing not just play then.
5. how they going to make any money without turning the game into pay to win and it may ending up to £200 or more just to get all the game.
6. what happen when they do not what to keep the game up and running. last with the run you buy you can still play then.
It's rather funny how gullible people are regarding some dubious marketing words, especially from EA. The aftermath will be a hilarious sight.
Just like how they said they'd make Generals 2, right? Yeah, that's the vaguest of vague statements in the FAQ. Wake me up when the SP DLC is an actual thing, not just a sentence on the internet with nothing to back up its existence.
Actually it did have a story although not a realism warfare story like World In Conflict.
Well then if they said that there will be customization purchases, that would be just coping petroglyph games & Trion new game End of Nations wouldn't it?
Because in the End of Nations it offers players and fans "customization purchases"
Well personally after i logged onto YouTube,Facebook this game of EA's isn't going to succeed judging by the reactions and the dislikes on the YouTube video.
And yes EA at least for now they have Angered, betrayed the command & conquer community.
For lying and for not making an announcement that they will be doing this.
Originally posted by RealWar View PostOK, Free-to-play games appeal to people who have lower budgets. People with lower budgets usually have terrible computers. This and the thought that most likely we'll see G2/C&C on Mac computers means the developers, while they should cater to the people that want to push their computers to the extreme, should also cater to the people who will be playing on the lowest settings.
Originally posted by You_Lose112 View PostSo I come back just to hear about this crap.
What happened to "Returning to our roots"?
As Feloidea said,they lied,plain and simple.
EA has taken yet ANOTHER franchise and ruined it.
I thought the little screw up with TT would be a wake up call for EA,nope,free to play!
No single player,always online,micro-transaction filled bullshit.
I have no hope for the game,an F2P RTS,what a fucking joke.
I remember the enthusiastic topics and discussions had in the community developer section for generals two,guess that's all a waste now.EA has shafted fans big on this one,going WAY over the line.
I don't see how some people are so calm about this,you have been lied to and cheated and you just shrug it off?
Well,I'm gone too I guess then,right as I was coming back too,full of enthusiasm for Generals 2.
And one more thing,**** you EA,stop ruining games.
Ban me,I don't care,I won't be back here anyways.
What is so FUCKING wrong with f2p? They've said (so far) that there will be customization purchases. They have said nothing about buying units or buying stuff that could make the game pay to win. They probably wouldn't because if this game is going to succeed it NEEDS to not **** off fans and to make sure not to do so they will need to listen to the community.
You don't know how it plays so how can you know that its gameplay isn't returning to it's roots? And even if something returns to its roots doesn't mean it won't evolve a bit.
And for the single player, Generals never had a great story compared to the tiberium universe and they've said that they might be making single player dlc.Last edited by gustasirrom; 08-16-2012, 01:36 AM.
EA VP said:
We still have fans who want that boxed retail product experience, and we are not walking away from that any time soon. We still have exciting announcements in the pipeline that will satisfy exactly that type of gamer.
New Faction?Could this be the new faction?
Upgrading Outside of Games.What if you had a tech tree outside the matches were you upgraded your units, for example like the one inside matches in CnC4 but much bigger. it could change small features on how you wanted to play so you could go a heavy tank GLA, a very infantry based USA, ect.
Turret = Machine Turret to shoot infantry.
Plates = 10% more armor.
Flash Bang = Same as in CnC generals.
Body Armor = Same as Plates.
Air to Air = Enables some airplanes to attack other airplanes.
Flares = 25% Dodge of Air to Air missles.
Thoughts and Suggestions?
Nope didn't work
Can't play LAN, it says: The game has detected a mismatch...When i try to play LAN with my friend after about 3 - 4 min it says
The game has detected a mismatch...
Can't remember the rest.
Is there a way to fix this???
We both run The First Decade.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/21004194/Ge...4-35-54-36.pngLast edited by gustasirrom; 03-05-2011, 02:42 PM.