Factions?

[ElliottG]

How about Israel, there tanks are deadly, and their commandos are legendary. Show israel some love ehh lol anyway, i like russia for the pick.

[Hawki]

Israel hardly qualifies as a superpower though, and any inclusion of it would probably generate more controversy than EA would care for, especially with the GLA standing in for Islamic extremism.

[Mad_Dog_Mitch]

LOL I like your style. I said something about an American domestic terrorist/Private military company as a GLA sub faction before. I think it would be interesting.

@ Mad Dog.

Don't take my "P90s r teh suxxors!111" comment to seriously. the 5.7 round is much more potent than a .22 magnum, I know. I handled a PS-90 [sporter version: Semi auto, longer barrel (which can of defeats the purpose IMHO)] and the ergonomics are superb, FNH did a good job on them, so I can see how they would be used by light security forces in specialized roles.

I think I am following you here on the Covert anti-terrorist faction. But at first I didn't see how it would work as a faction in generals. We already have the USA/EU as the western anti terrorist faction. Aditionally, a light covert faction would be very weak in a head on fight and its advantages would not be modeled in C&C very well. (Would every unit be stealthed, or something?) For instance their black suburban would not do very well against tanks.

Then it occurred to me, that the covert ops concept would work well if you had them change sides from anti-terrorist to plain old terrorist, it would work very well in the domestic terrorist/PMC GLA sub faction. Black Suburban technicals anyone? Or, sense some of those contractor vehicles are very well armored, maybe a battle buss?

Interesting idea. A Cabal of special interrests dedicated to stopping world peace for their own gains could be seen as terrorists. New face of the GLA perhaps. Not what I had in mind, but it works quite well.

What I had in mind was the GLA as third-world terrorists with AK's and what not, the U.S. getting involved as a millitary group largely based off of Marines with support from the Navy (If they've been insular all this time, then they don't have bases overseas to support AF and Army as easily as they can get Carriers and Subs out there) with Navy Seals as their specialists (Stealth, possibly amphibious, plus their main function aside from sniping would be painting targets for Long Range Missles, Artilery strikes, Air Strikes, what have you), and the EU being more of a Paramilitary group based off of, say, GSG-9, with just a bit of covert action involved. I figure, depending on where this treaty went down (if it was in say, Geneva or Prague or Warsaw), Europe might just need some police (both special weapons type and secret police) to restore order.

How a group like that would handle is indeed a difficult question. I was thinking maybe the base infantry would be stealthed when garrisoned in civilian structures. You'd only know there were people in them if they start firing. I mentioned earlier a spy, which would probably be disguised as enemy units, stealing money, bribing enemy units to be less hostile (I figure a bribe is good enough to make them look the other way or not fire, but not enough for them to quite switch sides), and sniping from within buildings. Yes, I'm doing a lot with buildings, as these guys are masters of Urban Warfare. The Suburban was never meant to go head to head with a Tank. It was meant for doing drive-by shootings on infantry. I am drawing blanks as to what a group like this would do for artillery. I do like the Battle Buss Idea. MLRS, only less tank like and more trucklike? An Alvis Saracen? Vans with sliding doors opening to guys holding rocket launchers/RPG's? I honestly am not quite sure. Perhaps you are right and these guys are better off as the new GLA.

I do have one other idea, but I think I"m going to start a thread for it. It's a bit out there.

[Commander32]

How about Israel, there tanks are deadly, and their commandos are legendary. Show israel some love ehh lol anyway, i like russia for the pick.

Your best bet is to make em part of the Gens2 EU, would help explain those Merk like Tanks they have.

[Alaskan_Viking]

I was thinking maybe the base infantry would be stealthed when garrisoned in civilian structures. You'd only know there were people in them if they start firing.

This is a good idea, but again, that gets into GLA territory with the stealth and guerrilla tactics. Generals really only has 3 basic types of armies: Fast, mobile, offensive armies (USA gen1/EUgen2) stealthy hit and run guerrilla tactis (GLA) and a slow moving heavy fire power faction (China gen1/____Gen2)

If you took that light, sneaky, stealthy covert ops faction idea, and develop it to its conclusion then you will end up with a faction that is Very OP, or something very similar to the GLA in gameplay. That is why I advocate this kind of domestic terror/PMG faction. It would have similar gameplay to the GLA faction archetype, but would not necessarily be on the GLA's side.

In Generals 1 there was a mission in the USA campaign where a faction within the GLA sided with the US, (very reminiscent of Northern Alliance fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan) so maybe the PMC faction could be some kind of GLA militia funded and supported covertly by the USA, or EU, or otherwise some kind of group being controlled by one of the major powers (or rogue elements within that power) against one of the others?

[Mad_Dog_Mitch]

This is a good idea, but again, that gets into GLA territory with the stealth and guerrilla tactics. Generals really only has 3 basic types of armies: Fast, mobile, offensive armies (USA gen1/EUgen2) stealthy hit and run guerrilla tactis (GLA) and a slow moving heavy fire power faction (China gen1/____Gen2)

If you took that light, sneaky, stealthy covert ops faction idea, and develop it to its conclusion then you will end up with a faction that is Very OP, or something very similar to the GLA in gameplay. That is why I advocate this kind of domestic terror/PMG faction. It would have similar gameplay to the GLA faction archetype, but would not necessarily be on the GLA's side.

In Generals 1 there was a mission in the USA campaign where a faction within the GLA sided with the US, (very reminiscent of Northern Alliance fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan) so maybe the PMC faction could be some kind of GLA militia funded and supported covertly by the USA, or EU, or otherwise some kind of group being controlled by one of the major powers (or rogue elements within that power) against one of the others?

You raise a good point. Perhaps a paramilitary/secret police faction could come later as DLC.

[RedShocktrooper]

Your best bet is to make em part of the Gens2 EU, would help explain those Merk like Tanks they have.

Indeed, it would. And I'd kind of lol if it turned out the EU was the Heavy Armor faction, meaning that a proper USA replacement or something else entirely would be the 3rd.

[Kyang]

Making the EU the tank faction would be a development concept finally coming full circle. In the development of the first Generals, the USA was supposed to fill this role before it was shifted to the Chinese.

Seems it made more sense to perpetuate the "Big, dumb, club-wielding Communists" trope. Still, that trope makes more sense in the Generals setting, than the odd Yuan Dynasty style the Asian faction originally had.

[Commander32]

I believe that the EU would somewhat take the role the US has as a high tech pinpoint faction, thought I would prefer if they have a different way to fight than just taking the US's role.

[GamerMario]

In my opinion, China should come. Maybe after Brazilian Militia come to expansion pack or something? They really tough like GLA. Or passes the names of a particular campaign.