EU Superweapon

[IonorRea]

bladexj: better some nicely animated turred with some capacitators around that somehow show charging status.

cirex1992: China is 20+ years behind west in most military stuff, in game even more, cheap labour has nothing to do with it.

[cirex1992]

bladexj: better some nicely animated turred with some capacitators around that somehow show charging status.

cirex1992: China is 20+ years behind west in most military stuff, in game even more, cheap labour has nothing to do with it.

China is just an upcoming nation, since the last 10 years they grow enormous, also china talks less open about there secret projects they are working on, the same for the US, most of it we know just because we watch discovery :P. But in the next 20 years China will sure climb to a hight of military technology where they are even with the US army, still the Europe army is nothing more of a copy-cat of the most of the US good working projects. There are just a few weapons that are really 100% Europe.

Do not forget that China is getting more and more important as a trading country, also for the US, this could also mean that the US and China will going to work closer together. May could even let it happen that the Chinese will gonna use US military powers. Sure you could say that never happens. But for what reason Europe is using US weapons? Well to be stronger against the communists, to have an allied with usefully airfields where they secretly can put hidden A-bombs, to have more allied against the terrorists. Even in Europe the US have putted A-bombs in underground bunkers on Europe military airfields during the cold war. And well they are still there, they where never removed .

[P1nkalicious]

China isn't suddenly going to leap to advancement

[IonorRea]

cirex1992:
Well USA never have better MBT, canon artilery or dieselelectric submarine that go into service after WW2 than Europe so about copying it's more a joke than real argument.

USA is more specialised on projecting power so have strong and most advanced airforce that EU don't need.

We have own missiles atc. but also use other tech for better price (mass produced USA stuff is in many cases a lot cheaper than low production of missiles in Europe) and political reasons.

Anyway when your knowledge about military stuff is only from documents it's for very long discussion to tell you basic.

[Alaskan_Viking]

cirex1992:
Well USA never have better MBT, canon artilery or dieselelectric submarine that go into service after WW2 than Europe so about copying it's more a joke than real argument.

USA is more specialised on projecting power so have strong and most advanced airforce that EU don't need.

We have own missiles atc. but also use other tech for better price (mass produced USA stuff is in many cases a lot cheaper than low production of missiles in Europe) and political reasons.

Anyway when your knowledge about military stuff is only from documents it's for very long discussion to tell you basic.

Better MBT's is arguable.

Artillery is also arguable, the PzH-2000 is probably (among) the best now, but in the 1960's the US M-109 Paladin was, so to categorically say that the US has " never have better MBT, canon artilery or dieselelectric submarine..." since WWII is just flat false.

Saying Europe has better Dies-electric submarines is an admission of defeat, since the US Navy has had nuclear submarines since the 1950's and nuclear submarines are generally considered to be better, with diesel subs primarily used by smaller, underfunded navies doe to their lower maintenance, production and R&D cost.

[IonorRea]

Ok, my last useless post...

M-109 - what so special about this piece other than is upgraded for half century? There were many attempts to replace this avarage piece many times but programs like Crushader or NLOS were always canceled before production due high cost etc.

Unlike soviet pieces operated in Europe first versions didn't have NBC protection, agains Swedish Bandkanon lacked rate of fire as M109 is manualy loaded, also range of M109 with standart munition isn't a record breaker so again what so special about this one?

Nuclear submarines - are due reactor more noisy so easier to track. Until maybe Seawolf class you have nothing to come close to low noise production of modern diesel-electric or enchanced Air Independent Propulsion submarines. Using nuclear subs in USA is given by need to protect fast nuclear powered aircraft carriers and long ranges on which USA submarines operate.

During excercises with USA were EU submarines able get on torpedo range to your aircraft carrier protected by full range of escorting ships and aircrafts just because USA systems were unable to detect a lot more silent Diesel-electric submarines then USA still standart Los Angeles nuclear attack submarine class.

There are many nations that use both types, but for USA due long distances isn't as much feasible even when diesel-electric types are for some tasks better.
In EU we use both types, nuclear by countries with aircraft carriers and landing ships or as ICBM delivery service, but for offensive tasks around Europe are diesel-electric AIP in most cases better and also cheaper.
Among nations that counter nuclear submarines with diesel-electric ones is also
Japan also use hi-tech diesel-electric submarines agains growing China's combined nuclear/diesel-electric fleet and i bed that USA will by in big trouble to counter Japan newest pieces with cost similar to some nuclear submarines.

[bombspy]

Germany is building the best non-nuclear submarines in the world. The new hydrogen operated Type-212 submarines are almost untrackable...

[Magnus20]

Germany is building the best non-nuclear submarines in the world. The new hydrogen operated Type-212 submarines are almost untrackable...

^
This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmTFmMW2NA

isn't it a nice target?

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...oot-Waffe-quot

It wasn't even a Type 212 class u-boot

[Vibius]

About the LHC, how would you possibly deploy that? build a collider around the enemy base and shoot particles at them?
For a sw how about some sorta plasma bomb that also does emp. but the explosion is not as big as a nuke.

Nah more like a minor LHC like building with an artillery setup next to it, its making anti matter particles and when finished they are put into magnetized shell.
When the timer reaches 0 it either fires the anti matter in a missile or a shell at the enemy base, making matter cease to exist thus destroying all buildings and leaving a nice hole in the ground.

[GDI_EVA]

except that much antimatter would level the entire battle-field.

also orbital strike isnt very feasible because I think US had space superiority from last game, and I don't think they would be big on allowing anyone one else orbital weapons, but overall it makes more sense then the LHC, which could be easily disabled by a missile strike, terror attack etc on any section. interesting how attack submarines and aircraft carriers didn't play a major part in the last game, probably had something to do with the fact that GLA is a terrorist faction, not a coalition of middle eastern countries.

Also thinking about it why didnt the US just hit the Cosmodrome with a missile strike?

EU could release a temporary swarm of nanobots to cause damage to an area, actually EU in general have nanotech would be interesting, but probably overpowered