No US faction?

[Adridos]

lol, really? Let me guess, you're a subscriber to the "Noble Savage" myth about Native Americans and your country's genocides happened long enough ago that your history books hardly mention them

Native Americans existed and their population is a very small minority now. Where did al those people living all over the America go?

And I'm from Slovakia. Feel free to look as much as you want, we never made any genocide.

[Alaskan_Viking]

So 30 years is "too little" for us? Look at Germany. It was decimated at the end of the 1st World War in 1918. Utterly. Yet, 21 years later, they have made a lot greater mess in 1939. And they are prospering now along with UK. If they were able to get so high even with endless debts, decimated industry, embargos, etc. in the real world, why should we have problems rebuilding in thirty years?

Did you not read my earlier post? (Or the info released by the devs for that matter...) The game does not take place 30 afte rthe first one, it takes place 10 years after the first one,how good was Germany doing in 1928 again? OH yeah right, in a state of economic collapse and fighting a minor civil war against communist!

Alaskan, there is a lot more to be ashamed of if you are an American. Mostly the history, so nothing I blame you guys for, but living in a nation built on a massive genocide is not my sort of good nationalistic taste.

I'm not even going to touch this, other than to say you need to read some actual history books about America, and maybe about your own country, instead of getting all your facts about US history from Russia Today. You dirty Capellan SCUM! ;P

... did I not specify that that was not a major reason? My point was, I feel like we're always high-and-mighty about a lot of things, and how arrogant many American citizens are irritates me. I'm not saying nobody else is arrogant. I'm saying we tend to be with certain things and I don't like it.

The fact that you mention it at all speaks volumes.

...though I'd recommend using less o's next time when spelling the word "wrong"; makes you look unprofessional...

I'm not a "Professional" on here, and neither are you, I am a fan on a fan forum with ~ six hundred different "ZOMG maybe China is 3th faction!11" threads. Nice grasping at straws to help yourself recover from your complete failure and utter wrongness though.

Even still, though, I kind of like the plot line as it is, despite the nicks in it. Maybe mentioning a sort of genius great leader would help a lot. If you know your history, you'll know that Hitler helped save Germany from its horrible economic rut... that is, before he started killing people. Basically, the EU could get a new genius leader who is not in to genocide.

Oh that Adolf Hitler! He really was a genius! ...Really?

[=LEVIATHEN=]

The fact that you mention it at all speaks volumes.

I was opening the fact that I think that some American citizens are arrogant by using that comment as a bridge. I thought I specified that.

I'm not a "Professional" on here, and neither are you, I am a fan on a fan forum with ~ six hundred different "ZOMG maybe China is 3th faction!11" threads. Nice grasping at straws to help yourself recover from your complete failure and utter wrongness though.

I'm not saying that you are a professional. I'm saying that spelling correctly makes you seem more mature. I am sorry if I am not clear enough with this.

RED: ... Assuming that there was something to recover from, that wouldn't have helped me at all. Why do you think I would have used that, which didn't relate at all to the conversation at all, to try and "recover"?

Oh that Adolf Hitler! He really was a genius! ...Really?

... I'm not saying Hitler was a genius. He was an insane genocidal psychopath whom I could not hate any more. He also help Germany recover from its depression after World War 1. That was the only point I was making, and if that isn't clear enough, then I don't know what is.


Alaskan, I think that you're beginning to retaliate to the wrong things, and only to keep the conversation going. Please, lets just return to the actual conversation and not retaliate to any points if there isn't any point in retaliating.

And if you are thinking of retaliating about the fact that I'm retaliating, I'm only doing that because you:
A: Don't seem to get what I'm talking about.
B: Seem to want to argue for the sake of retaliating and seeming victorious (seem being the key word here), and you needed to be told to stop.


Besides, you already have a stable argument: that Generals took place in 2020, hence leaving only 10 years for Europe to recover. Why not just use that? (I see that you are using it; my point is that that is the only helpful piece in this discussion, and that should be what we should be concentrating solely on)

[=LEVIATHEN=]

Now, to debate; Since there is a mere 10-year period for Europe to recover, I think that a leader who knows his politics, economics, persuasion, etc. would be a sensible (if not sensible, then one of the only) solution(s).

[Revanchist]

I was opening the fact that I think that some American citizens are arrogant

Um...duh. Some people are arrogant. You'll find them everywhere.

I've come into contact with arrogant Americans, arrogant Europeans, arrogant Asians, everybody.

[Whoopu2]

Everyone keeps clinging to the year 2030 as if it's some far-off time period where a lot could have changed between Gen1 and Gen2, if I recall correctly, doesn't Generals 1 take place in like 2015 or 2020? So we're talking a mere 10-15 years for an entire continent to recover from a horrific GLA invasion followed by a brutal "liberation" by china...

All I'm saying is if the EU has had time to rise to a superpower after all of that, then the USA has certainly had time to let it's scrapes and bruises heal.

[=LEVIATHEN=]

Um...duh. Some people are arrogant. You'll find them everywhere.

I've come into contact with arrogant Americans, arrogant Europeans, arrogant Asians, everybody.

I am perfectly aware of that, and I have never once stated that that was not true. There are arrogant people everywhere.

I am specifying the USA in this case because it applies, and also because I live in the USA. I guess you could say I feel concerned or disapointed about some of the things we do and think, and the way many US citizens are.

[Golan2781]

Are you guys seriously discussing the canon continuity with Gen1? There is next to no information about the big picture of the Gen/ZH situation, damage to infrastructure or industries, let alone how GLA actually managed to take hold of Europe - it's a 500 million people super state. For all that's known they could have dug in at key strategic/civil locations and taken the state hostage; there's little information about the geopolitical situation either, China could have well given them a jumpstart to keep the US or Russia at bay, similar to how Germany was jumpstarted after WW2.
That's not even addressing the issue that Gen1's story is so vague, you could bowdlerize/retcon half its story and setting and hardly anyone would even notice. Like, putting the events of Gen/ZH a couple years earlier in history.

By the way, is it confirmed that the EU is actually the European union? Not, say, the Eurasian Union?

[Garbarsardar]

Native Americans existed and their population is a very small minority now. Where did al those people living all over the America go?

And I'm from Slovakia. Feel free to look as much as you want, we never made any genocide.

Hah, look up the definition of genocide and come back.

And yeah, sorry, but most of Europe is at least guilty of killing lots of people when your ancestors the Celts decided to expand. What's that? That's too far back to matter? Don't care, you killed people for their land. Savages.

[Adridos]

And yeah, sorry, but most of Europe is at least guilty of killing lots of people when your ancestors the Celts decided to expand. What's that? That's too far back to matter? Don't care, you killed people for their land. Savages.

Well, chances are you aren't native American and therefor, they were your ancestors, too.