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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyang View Post
    [...]The ultimate goal of the reapers has also shifted each game from preventing a dark energy overload to preventing an evolutionary singularity, now to preventing an extinction level conflict between organics and synthetics.
    [...] and the ultimate direction chosen by the writing team at the very end of ME's development based on how they interpreted the events of the previous two games.
    This leaves one question: if the real goal is so well known why would they even have to interpret the events of the previous two games?
    It's like someone hands me an Apple and a Pear with sticky notes on them of which is which and I decide I take the Pear as an Apple because I interpreted the description that way.
    It doesn't make any sense.

    What you have left out is that the ending was in the air because of the development of certain features. Of course the writing had to be changed accordingly.
    Also the battle against TIM was considered at a draft stage. It was "One of the plans on the drawing board".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    This leaves one question: if the real goal is so well known why would they even have to interpret the events of the previous two games?
    It's like someone hands me an Apple and a Pear with sticky notes on them of which is which and I decide I take the Pear as an Apple because I interpreted the description that way.
    It doesn't make any sense.

    What you have left out is that the ending was in the air because of the development of certain features. Of course the writing had to be changed accordingly.
    Also the battle against TIM was considered at a draft stage. It was "One of the plans on the drawing board".

    Not sure if you're agreeing, disagreeing, adding more info, or some mix of all three.






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    I might agree that there was no overall consensus about the goal of the reapers, but I disagree with your statement that they had to interpret it from the previous games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    I might agree that there was no overall consensus about the goal of the reapers, but I disagree with your statement that they had to interpret it from the previous games.
    The lead writer left the industry, and for the next two games only two of the original writers remained, with one of them uninvolved in most of the story development. So with effectively a new writing team, and an ending that change for each game, there wasn't anything else they could do other than interpret events as best they could. The original intent might have been well known, but the path to it was never set, unless, to use your example, there were sticky notes left behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    This leaves one question: if the real goal is so well known why would they even have to interpret the events of the previous two games?
    It's like someone hands me an Apple and a Pear with sticky notes on them of which is which and I decide I take the Pear as an Apple because I interpreted the description that way.
    It doesn't make any sense.
    They're not taking a pear as an apple. They're getting a lemon out of two different paths, one that lead to an apple, another that lead to a pear. And there was nothing else they could do because the road to any of them had not been built yet, and each time they tried to make their way, the hikers kept changing along with their minds.

    That's how I've understood the info so far.
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    I do not know why... everytime I look at Lauren's Avatar my brain first registers it as she is kissing the top of Legion's head before I see it for what it is (a sniper rifle). Every single time.
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    Didn't they change it cause the story got leaked? I think I heard that rumor floating around somewhere.

    I liked the dark energy ending. You could totally tell they were setting it up for that in ME2 with all the dark energy references throughout the game. Then in ME3, they decided there was never any such thing.

    I don't like how the point of the Reapers is to prevent a "thought" disaster. I'd of thought that their purpose would be a more tangible reason.. not "One day, synthetics might become very powerful and might end the life of organics. So just to be safe, we're gonna kill off all the aging organics so that doesn't happen. We hope you understand."

    Come to think of it... Reaper's are pretty devastating creatures. Why did they have to resort to these cycles of wiping out organic life? Couldn't they just do cycles in which they wipe out synthetic life? Or, even better, only step in when synthetics are aggressing against organics? Wouldn't that make more sense? And also, why did the Reapers keep telling us that their purpose was something that we couldn't comprehend? It didn't seem all that difficult to me... In fact, it's easily explained in a sentence or two.
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    The leak you speak of is actually two and one is more of a spill (after the fact kind of thing). Basically the leak script which happened in November (I think) was the ending we got, minus the Joker Normandy scene, and the fate of the Relays were not revealed in the Control and Synthesis ending (so people assumed they survived in those).

    Afterwards, a second 'leak' came out that the original ending was about Dark Energy and some of the details of that ending. Obviously if this was true it was scrapped a long time ago, because the first leak was what we pretty much got. But people sort of merged the two as "the leak" and assumed the leaked ending was about Dark Energy (but as I said, it was not).

    Now, about the Dark Energy Ending, Drew was kind of enough to confirm that it was indeed an ending that was on the table when he was still on the ME project. But it was only one of many suggested endings they had on the table. It was getting pushed down the list even before he transfered over to SWTOR. Hard to know when that ending was totally scrapped but it was probably between ME2 and ME3. Was this ending Drew's personal pick? I don't know.
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    In general it's a common misconception if something leaks that it is THE PLAN instead of one of many on the table.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilleous View Post
    I do not know why... everytime I look at Lauren's Avatar my brain first registers it as she is kissing the top of Legion's head before I see it for what it is (a sniper rifle). Every single time.
    That would be quite cute actually. I always wondered about Legion as LI. Especially when asked about the armor piece.
    Last edited by Lauren; 03-21-2012 at 02:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauren View Post
    In general it's a common misconception if something leaks that it is THE PLAN instead of one of many on the table.

    That would be quite cute actually. I always wondered about Legion as LI. Especially when asked about the armor piece.
    Took me a second to understand what "LI" meant in regards to Legion. I guess it would be like loving all the Geth, simultaneously. They're all of one mind before certain choices in ME3 after all. It would be loving one personality with many bodies. So many bodies. Millions. That's different I guess.






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    They aren't in ME2 as they haven't rejoined the group consensus yet. It's one platform with ~1000 Geth that create 1! personality. And in ME3 after these choices Legion himself says: "I".
    Last edited by Lauren; 03-21-2012 at 02:57 PM.

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