The Dark Knight Rises

[Kyang]

Gah... You can't really treat this as a 7th Batman movie. Christopher Nolan set out to do something different from past batman movies.

Wait who are you referring to? Who's treating it as a "7th Batman movie"? Hasn't everyone already shown that they know it's separate from those? The entire trilogy starts with a film called Batman Begins and covers his origin story. If it wasn't already immediately obvious that it was the beginning of a separate arc from the previous films, then... um... What. The. Heck. Dude(s/ettes).

[Lauren]

A Joker/Riddler teamup would have been fun in the trilogy, though the Riddler is planning too much.

[Zocom7]

The only bad part of the movie is the incident that happened in Colorado and I don't think any of the people that went to go see the movie didn't deserve to die.

At least for that reason no one here would want to discuss that in the forums. Everybody knows what had happened there.


Still in the box office, the movie's still number one for the third week in a row, but as far as the numbers go I don't think it'll be as epic as The Avengers. Besides the Bane villain I wish there was The Riddler in the movie.

[Lauren]

Spoiler:
Bane is too much just a brute, the real mastermind gets not enough screentime.

[godofcod58]

I thought the ending was really how the series should have ended, and I thought that was what would happen before I even saw the movie.

[=LEVIATHEN=]

I saw it, and I thought it was a very fitting end to the series. It didn't have quite the same tension quality as The Dark Knight, but it had a sort of epic feel to it that made up for that.

Spoiler:
Bane is too much just a brute, the real mastermind gets not enough screentime.

That's true; however, Bane would have been a great mastermind character had he not been a brute, and he gave a lot of really good lines, in a nice, chilling way.

"When Gotham is ashes, then you have my permission to die."

[CNCGeek101]

Wait who are you referring to? Who's treating it as a "7th Batman movie"? Hasn't everyone already shown that they know it's separate from those? The entire trilogy starts with a film called Batman Begins and covers his origin story. If it wasn't already immediately obvious that it was the beginning of a separate arc from the previous films, then... um... What. The. Heck. Dude(s/ettes).

Go to page 1 where the OP refers to this as the 7th Batman movie *cough* *cough*

@Geek
Aw that means I'll have to wait for a (possible) reboot before I can see The Riddler :|

Christopher Nolan did state "The Riddler" was almost put into the script for TDKR. A good chunk of footage was cut that showed how Bane came to be which was reported today by IGN.

[Kyang]

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Thanks. At this point, out of habit, I usually ignore what Zocom7 says.


Also: Zocom7. What. The. Heck. Dude.

[Golan2781]

Spoiler:
Bane is too much just a brute, the real mastermind gets not enough screentime.

Which is also one of the major problems I have with this Bane. The original Bane combines being both a brute and a mastermind, mirroring Batman's brains and brawns in an extremist way.
Now, Nolan builds up Bane as a psychopathic Brute but leaves increasingly obvious hints at his matermindedness - only to trash that with an "uh, no, actually [spoiler] is it" in the last minutes. And then he dies.

When it comes to Bane, the mask he wears is iconic and the voice you hear is the cause of voice changer mechanism in the mask itself that had to be used as the actor Tom Hardy would have found very hard to sound villain like without it. Bane's history as a villain has always worn a mask that morphs his voice anyway. The eyes of Bane in TKDR is what you should have looked at throughout the movie as his emotions with his eye movements tell the intensity better.

I understand the motivation, it's the execution I mind. I grew up when Darth Vader was kicking *** (German dub, mind you. Very great work), that guy has a full face mask and better conveys emotion. The voice, no matter how motivated, for me simply doesn't connect to Bane - neither in space (it feels like an offscreen narrator) nor in emotion (intonation often doesn't match action/theme). Tom Hardy is a great actor and there are some visible cues as to what he's supposed to get across, but that doesn't account for the raw emotion, the sheer force a character such as Bane is supposed to represent.

Go to page 1 where the OP refers to this as the 7th Batman movie *cough* *cough*

Well, it is, provided you don't count any of the Adam West stuff.